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he is at the table, senator reid, and others. guest: i am not sure that john boehner will be at the table. he said it is now up to the senate, i am going home. it is not taking my ball and going home, but it is doing as much as you can. he is literally looking to his republican colleagues in the senate to work with harry reid to get something acceptable. if he does, that will put significant pressure on house republicans that did not otherwise exist. i want to push back a little bit. since may, i thought that john boehner -- he made a speech back in december where he talked about $1 for spending cuts for every $1 increase in borrowing. red meat for the tea party wing. it was clearly an attempt to say, i am your guy. it is not clear to me at the moment that, one, anybody would want the job, and two, that there really will not be a challenge. it has to come together very quickly. they do not need somebody to beat boehner. all they have to do is withhold 18 republican votes in the house. he would get an absolute majority and would n
he is at the table, senator reid, and others. guest: i am not sure that john boehner will be at the table. he said it is now up to the senate, i am going home. it is not taking my ball and going home, but it is doing as much as you can. he is literally looking to his republican colleagues in the senate to work with harry reid to get something acceptable. if he does, that will put significant pressure on house republicans that did not otherwise exist. i want to push back a little bit. since may,...
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reid, mr. obama starting the warfare about taxing the rich. reid sat on the bill. why didn't he bring it up for a vote? why didn't it get fair debate? mr. reid hasn't passed a budget and we going to believe they're serious about the fiscal problems? let's go offense the cliff. >> we have two cameras outside the white house right now. that one i believe is perched on pennsylvania avenue and we have another camera which is perched facing the side entrance. those are the suvs that likely boehner, mcconnell, pelosi and reid will come out of. let's talk about the deal. what if there's a deal, craig, for, i don't know, say 4 hr $500,000 the threshold of who gets taxes and who keeps -- everybody under that number keeps their tax cuts. everyone over pays more and there's spending cuts. is that a bad deal? >> yeah. i think it is. let me tell you why. because you can't get everything out of this deal that you want and frankly, all we're doing is kicking the can down the road. you know as well as i do this does nothing to deal with the $1 trillion plus deficits we have yearly
reid, mr. obama starting the warfare about taxing the rich. reid sat on the bill. why didn't he bring it up for a vote? why didn't it get fair debate? mr. reid hasn't passed a budget and we going to believe they're serious about the fiscal problems? let's go offense the cliff. >> we have two cameras outside the white house right now. that one i believe is perched on pennsylvania avenue and we have another camera which is perched facing the side entrance. those are the suvs that likely...
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our photographer just saw him go into harry reid's office. he's currently meeting, i don't know, one-on-one, or maybe with other members of the senate democratic leadership in the office of senator harry reid, which is just around the corner from where i'm standing right now. you see this crowd of people behind me. those are reporters waiting to see if the vice president is going to come through because he's eventually going to come through he and meet with all of the senate democrats for the meeting you were talking about with the senator. sounds as though they're doing a little talking about -- a little bit of a game plan about how they're going to present this to the caucus, and obviously, that's a very delicate issue for reasons we have been talking about. the democratic caucus, many of them are not happy. in fact, i have to tell you i was told by one democratic senator when they put up on a screen, they put up yesterday in a meeting that democrats were having, they put up almost like a power point, i believe, some of the aspects of the p
our photographer just saw him go into harry reid's office. he's currently meeting, i don't know, one-on-one, or maybe with other members of the senate democratic leadership in the office of senator harry reid, which is just around the corner from where i'm standing right now. you see this crowd of people behind me. those are reporters waiting to see if the vice president is going to come through because he's eventually going to come through he and meet with all of the senate democrats for the...
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harry reid is gauging interest with republican and democratic senators. he doesn't want to put anything on the floor that would not pass out of the senate. then he is asking republicans to vote for a tax increase for no reason. he wants assurances it would go down to the house floor and be gone for a vote. if that were to happen, you would see it passed out of the house with the democrats and as few as 30 or 40 republicans. john boehner stood by this rule that he wants the majority of majority. boehner and president obama have not spoken over the last few days. there seems to be no communication there. for all intents and purposes, there is a 50-50 sign. a lost folks say more likely than not we go over the slif because they cannot afford it. >> if we go over the cliff, there several million americans who that will impact in terms of people unemployment benefits. maybe they have benefits wrapped up in the market. is there an appropriate sense of urgencey and the amount of pain this will cause in some people's lives. >> to be honest with you and i put my am
harry reid is gauging interest with republican and democratic senators. he doesn't want to put anything on the floor that would not pass out of the senate. then he is asking republicans to vote for a tax increase for no reason. he wants assurances it would go down to the house floor and be gone for a vote. if that were to happen, you would see it passed out of the house with the democrats and as few as 30 or 40 republicans. john boehner stood by this rule that he wants the majority of majority....
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harry reid. the senate has not passed a budget more than three years. the senate has not passed anything on the fiscal cliff greathouse have something with economics. all the senate has to do is pass something and they can go to a conference committee to get the whole thing ironed out. i think kerry reid and the senate and bama, because the democrats in the senate are doing his bidding, that is where the real obstacles to getting something done. >> there was a perception created that the vote last night would increase taxes. now, i disagree with that characterization. but that impression is out there. the number of our members who just really didn't want to be perceived as having to raise taxes. that was the real issue. gerri: in some ways he was talking about grover norquist. the man it is about this tax pledge where is the common ground there? >> the reason that we have a plan be now is because the houses are devoted to pass all of the bills. gerri: but how do you find common ground there? them and that's what the speaker was trying to do. he was talk
harry reid. the senate has not passed a budget more than three years. the senate has not passed anything on the fiscal cliff greathouse have something with economics. all the senate has to do is pass something and they can go to a conference committee to get the whole thing ironed out. i think kerry reid and the senate and bama, because the democrats in the senate are doing his bidding, that is where the real obstacles to getting something done. >> there was a perception created that the...
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so i'm getting the sentence that harry reid and the democrats don't want a deal. they want to go off the cliff. >> well, and that's certainly one opinion that's out there, andrea. the cpi aspect, democrats said, you know, we were willing to do that if you were talking about a huge 4 trillion dollar teal deal where we're going to cut a lot of different things, but as part after smaller deal they're trying to iron out over the course this have weekend, they said that that was a poison pill. so bottom line, they were not happy with this at the last minute. they made it well-known to everybody today to certainly stop it from happening so then we heard from a lot of republicans saying, fine, if it's a deal breaker, we're not going to do it and certainly the republicans would like some other sweeteners that would be appealing to them in the final deal. >> and do people in washington, to they realize how angry a lot of americans are? we're down to the wire on a financial crisis that we haven't seen in a long, long time, and there's no agreement. they're scrabbling like k
so i'm getting the sentence that harry reid and the democrats don't want a deal. they want to go off the cliff. >> well, and that's certainly one opinion that's out there, andrea. the cpi aspect, democrats said, you know, we were willing to do that if you were talking about a huge 4 trillion dollar teal deal where we're going to cut a lot of different things, but as part after smaller deal they're trying to iron out over the course this have weekend, they said that that was a poison pill....
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agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor, i asked senator reid to do this, put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on miedddle class families don' go up, that unemployment is still available for 2 million people on that lays the groundwork for additional deficit reduction on economic growth steps that we can take in the new year but let's not miss this deadline. >> as for the two senate leaders, they spoke shortly after the meeting on sounded a bit more hopeful than the president. >> i think it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. it's a very serious meeting on it took an extended period of time, as you all know waiting for us. >> mr. president, i would just add -- i share the view of the majority leader, we had a good meeting down at the white house. we are engaged in discussion, the majority leader on myself on the white house >> -- so i'm hopeful. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously their patience is already thin. this is deja vu a
agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor, i asked senator reid to do this, put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on miedddle class families don' go up, that unemployment is still available for 2 million people on that lays the groundwork for additional deficit reduction on economic growth steps that we can take in the new year but let's not miss this deadline. >> as for the two senate leaders, they spoke shortly after the meeting on...
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senator reid said a vote could happen on monday, but people have heard so much talk about the crisis but seen precious little action. the president tonight echoing that frustration. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason you can't get stuff done in an organized time table. why everything always has to wait until the last minute. well, we're now at the last minute. and the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. >> but it remains to be seen whether lawmakers on both sides of the aisle get it. some even sounded miffed to have to work over the holiday. democrats senator charles schumer telling the "new york times," i didn't realize how much i didn't want to be here until i got here. and rand paul saying he would rather be playing soccer with his kids and telling the "times" quote, this is no way to run things. and wall street agrees, the dow industrial is losing more than 150
senator reid said a vote could happen on monday, but people have heard so much talk about the crisis but seen precious little action. the president tonight echoing that frustration. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason you can't get stuff done in an organized time table. why everything always has to wait until the last minute. well, we're...
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so joining me, i think we still have joy ann reid from the grio. i want to ask you if you're still there about the comments that -- i'll just read them out from harry reid, the senate majority leader. he said there was a long meeting at the white house, it was very constructive. we hope it will bear fruit but that's what we hope to learn. he said i think the next 24 hours will be tre instructive as to what we're able to accomplish. we talked about a lot of things. there's no concrete proposal at this time he said. we have a number of different directions we're going it try to take and we're going to see what can be worked out. joy, if they're talking like this in vague terms, does this make us feel like there's something going on? i mean, obviously there's a communication there, but without a concrete proposals, how quickly can they turn this around? >> well, you know what, richard, i think this could be john boehner learning the lesson of not to put out any specifics he can't deliver on. we were just talking about that before. he's been burned bef
so joining me, i think we still have joy ann reid from the grio. i want to ask you if you're still there about the comments that -- i'll just read them out from harry reid, the senate majority leader. he said there was a long meeting at the white house, it was very constructive. we hope it will bear fruit but that's what we hope to learn. he said i think the next 24 hours will be tre instructive as to what we're able to accomplish. we talked about a lot of things. there's no concrete proposal...
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the democrats are wasting no time in the event harry reid needs the vote to avert the fiscal cliff. but the house? a different story. speaker john boehner held a conference call with republican leadership today, and basically decided to do nothing. there are no immediate plans to return to washington. even as that decision is made, how members have 48 hours to get there. house republican leadership released a statement today reading in part, the house has acted on two bills which collectively would avert the entire fiscal cliff if enacted. those bills await action by the senate if the senate will not approve and send them to the president to be signed into law in their current form. they must be amended and returned to the house. the house will take this action on whatever the senate can pass, but the senate must first act. the house has passed bills that would never pass the senate. speaker boehner's position is a joke. senate majority leader harry reid responded, house republicans pushed middle class families closer to the blip by wasting an entire week with their incompetent plan
the democrats are wasting no time in the event harry reid needs the vote to avert the fiscal cliff. but the house? a different story. speaker john boehner held a conference call with republican leadership today, and basically decided to do nothing. there are no immediate plans to return to washington. even as that decision is made, how members have 48 hours to get there. house republican leadership released a statement today reading in part, the house has acted on two bills which collectively...
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we assume harry reid is here and their staffs are going back and forth. i spoke to one aide who said don't expect for any details to leak tonight. they'll be closed-lipped about this because the idea if anything does leak out it gives more of an opportunity for folks on either party to kill a deal if they don't like what they hear. some sort of a agreement will be announced tomorrow when the house is back in session and the senate is back in session and they can go back to say hey, this is the best opportunity. as far as the likelihood of this kraig, things have not been going well and there's optimism here and there and things are fluid like kristen says and it will be the final deal, but what we do know is these folks on capitol hill are very mindful of the damage that can be done to the economy if nothing is brief. we've had five down days in the stock market and we're preparing the country on tuesday for the first tax increase in 20 years, and i think finally at the end, that's starting to resonate at least with some of the elder members of both sides
we assume harry reid is here and their staffs are going back and forth. i spoke to one aide who said don't expect for any details to leak tonight. they'll be closed-lipped about this because the idea if anything does leak out it gives more of an opportunity for folks on either party to kill a deal if they don't like what they hear. some sort of a agreement will be announced tomorrow when the house is back in session and the senate is back in session and they can go back to say hey, this is the...
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senate majority leader harry reid leaving right now. we'll come in and out of this conversation with whatever news we have. you talk about regulation and things that impact the big banks. what is your outlook for 2013 given we have a lot coming down the pike in the way of more rules and potentially more costs for this industry? >> well, you know, when we're looking at regulation, we've been in the process, you know, since we went through the financial crisis of adapting to new regulation. the banks have been able to, you know, double their excess capital, improving their overall base of capital to the point now that they're even meeting the basel iii guidelines for the most part. when you look at the stress tests and what we'll go in march they have been able to derisk their balance sheets and able to build capital so we can pay out twice as much of our incremental earnings we had last year. when you look at liquidity, we've been able to build liquidity on the balance sheets. deposit growth has been very strong. so for the most part we'
senate majority leader harry reid leaving right now. we'll come in and out of this conversation with whatever news we have. you talk about regulation and things that impact the big banks. what is your outlook for 2013 given we have a lot coming down the pike in the way of more rules and potentially more costs for this industry? >> well, you know, when we're looking at regulation, we've been in the process, you know, since we went through the financial crisis of adapting to new regulation....
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reid, mcconnell, boehner and pelosi. . joining me to talk more, we have peter alexander standing by at the white house as well as nbc's mike viqueira on capitol hill. some verbal smackdown, basically flipping the lights back on and harry reid taking to the floor to eviscerate speaker boehner. >> the sad part is you often seen the floor opened that way. mitch mcconnell being later today. i'm sure we'll hear something later. to hear it two days after christmas and a matter of days before we go through the fiscal cliff, obviously not encouraging. harry reid says time is running hout. he doesn't know if they could go through the legislative hurdles. if they have the votes around here, they can legislate the sky is green and the grass is blue. that's not an issue. what harry reid is really saying is mitch mcconnell, get on board, don't try to filibuster. of course they're talking about a bill that had raise capital on couples making more than $250,000 a year, and do a few other nuts and bolts that are deemed the bare minimum th
reid, mcconnell, boehner and pelosi. . joining me to talk more, we have peter alexander standing by at the white house as well as nbc's mike viqueira on capitol hill. some verbal smackdown, basically flipping the lights back on and harry reid taking to the floor to eviscerate speaker boehner. >> the sad part is you often seen the floor opened that way. mitch mcconnell being later today. i'm sure we'll hear something later. to hear it two days after christmas and a matter of days before we...
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he has reached out to majority leader reid, and nancy pelosi, to sign off. they gave it. so the white house right now feeling quite confident about this agreement that has been reached. of course, we're talking about the opposition that has been emerging from the left, including labor leaders, he says it is not good enough, why? because the tax rates are not the ones that president obama campaigned on. remember the president campaigned saying that he wanted to see taxes going up on those making $250,000 or more. this of course raises taxes on people making $400,000 or more, if you're single, $450,000 for a couple. so folks on the left saying this is not good enough. but the white house, mitch mcconnell, vice president joe biden believes it is a good deal because it represents compromise on all sides. i also spoke to one of my democratic sources who said look, if you look at the way the sequester has worked out, yes, it has only staved off for two months. however, they are off setting the cuts both through revenue as well as spending cuts. the reason democrats believe it i
he has reached out to majority leader reid, and nancy pelosi, to sign off. they gave it. so the white house right now feeling quite confident about this agreement that has been reached. of course, we're talking about the opposition that has been emerging from the left, including labor leaders, he says it is not good enough, why? because the tax rates are not the ones that president obama campaigned on. remember the president campaigned saying that he wanted to see taxes going up on those making...
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and i have asked senator reid to do this. put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on middle class families don't go up. that unemployment insurance is still available for two million people. and that lays the ground work for deficit reduction and economic growth steps that we can take in the new year. but let's not miss this deadline. >> as for the leaders they sounded a bit more hopeful than the president. >> i think it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. it is a very serious meeting and it would take an extended period of time as you know, waiting for us. >> i share the view of the majority leader. we had a good meeting down at the white house. we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself and the white house, in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference, and the majority leader can make to his conference. and so we'll be working hard to try to see if
and i have asked senator reid to do this. put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on middle class families don't go up. that unemployment insurance is still available for two million people. and that lays the ground work for deficit reduction and economic growth steps that we can take in the new year. but let's not miss this deadline. >> as for the leaders they sounded a bit more hopeful than the president. >> i think it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of...
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harry reid has hunls of bills bottled up. the idea that one bill is entitled, well, in fact, both the senator and i would love to have some things unbottled for an up or down vote. it's not the process or fair to divide america. >> i've got to run. to be continued. i hope you'll come back. thank you so much. thank you all for being here. i appreciate it. >>> up next, why neglecting rural america could be costly for everyone. later, the washington game that never gets old. >> kicking the can down the road. >> we're not going to address it by kicking the can down the road. >> kick the can down the road when it comes to solving the larger problem of our deficit. s, and they're them. yes. but they're here. yes. are you...? there? yes. no. are you them? i'm me. but those rates are for... them. so them are here. yes! you want to run through it again? no, i'm good. you got it? yes. rates for us and them -- now that's progressive. call or click today. but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your
harry reid has hunls of bills bottled up. the idea that one bill is entitled, well, in fact, both the senator and i would love to have some things unbottled for an up or down vote. it's not the process or fair to divide america. >> i've got to run. to be continued. i hope you'll come back. thank you so much. thank you all for being here. i appreciate it. >>> up next, why neglecting rural america could be costly for everyone. later, the washington game that never gets old....
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that stokes investor hopes for a fiscal cliff deal and this coming just a few hours after harry reid's comments sent the dow into a tailspin. we have complete coverage in this developing story which is happening tonight as we speak. also, as supplies from the obama team, ep achieve lisa jackson stepping down. can the coal companies finally breathe a sigh of relief? guess what happened in britain when the uk banned handguns. the surprising result that could change the gun control debate. "the kudlow report" start ises right now. >>> the big news tonight, still the developments in washington on the fiscal cliff, eamon javers joins us with the details. >> good evening, meshel. capitol hill sources tell cnbc that congressional leaders are planning to go to the white house tomorrow to meet with president barack obama and it is not entirely clear at this point when that meeting will take place and details are still being hammered out and we saw today a blistering series of rhetorical jabs from one side to the other and it's not clear as a result of all that whether a deal can, in fact, get h
that stokes investor hopes for a fiscal cliff deal and this coming just a few hours after harry reid's comments sent the dow into a tailspin. we have complete coverage in this developing story which is happening tonight as we speak. also, as supplies from the obama team, ep achieve lisa jackson stepping down. can the coal companies finally breathe a sigh of relief? guess what happened in britain when the uk banned handguns. the surprising result that could change the gun control debate....
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and senator reid saying that that is what the delay is. as you look at reporters including our own chad pergram waiting around there for more info. also senator joe lieberman independent from connecticut who caucuses with the democrats says there will be a vote tonight on this package which means that there will be a vote in the senate tonight. the house has adjourned until tomorrow. joining me now, a.b. stoddard with "the hill." your thoughts on this, the latest developments? >> well, bret, everyone wanted to make this sound hopeful in the last few hours and there is still hope something can get done on time or even before the new congress is sworn on thursday but senate democrats are unhappy. house democrats are unhappy, they think the white house gave too much away on marginal rates and the estate tax and we are hearing word from house republicans one top leadership aide told me it is a piece of junk what is coming over from the senate so far that they know. they haven't seen paper or a vote. we are still a long way to go as these thing
and senator reid saying that that is what the delay is. as you look at reporters including our own chad pergram waiting around there for more info. also senator joe lieberman independent from connecticut who caucuses with the democrats says there will be a vote tonight on this package which means that there will be a vote in the senate tonight. the house has adjourned until tomorrow. joining me now, a.b. stoddard with "the hill." your thoughts on this, the latest developments?...
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i'm hearing harry reid would essentially laugh at that and say are you kidding me? we spent this time, joe biden and mitch mcconnell spent all this time trying to get an agreement. what are we supposed to do with this? this leaves the question out there, could we go over the fiscal cliff entirely? we are teetering on the edge from where we stand now, it's a good possibility. i will say though, if john boehner wanted to take this bill and put it to the floor without amendments, essentially having a p profile in courage moment t would probably pass. from the republican i spoke to in the room, they said if there's an appetite for folks who have been around here for a while to get this over with, they can live to fight another day on the debt limit and on the government funding bill. but this would be a pr disaster for republicans. there is nowhere else for this bill to go. if the house gop tries to administration this with this short amount of time left, they feel, this member spoke to me and folks close to the speaker, they feel the claim woublame wo them. the sandy s
i'm hearing harry reid would essentially laugh at that and say are you kidding me? we spent this time, joe biden and mitch mcconnell spent all this time trying to get an agreement. what are we supposed to do with this? this leaves the question out there, could we go over the fiscal cliff entirely? we are teetering on the edge from where we stand now, it's a good possibility. i will say though, if john boehner wanted to take this bill and put it to the floor without amendments, essentially...
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unless i'm missing senator reid here. it looks like he might still be in the building at this point. >> the republicans have left the building pretty much. >> reporter: that's right. >> leaving the democrats to talk about this. so it doesn't look that great. stay right there. let's talk about this with some market pros, morgan lander and stephen nicholas is with us, ed moy and rick lake was with us earlier. chad morgan lander, what do you do? investors are watching all of this, they want some direction and they want to get ready for 2030 and the nonsense continues in washington. >> well, the market is going to get sloppy over the next two weeks until they get a resolution, and you should fully expect that they will get a resolution, and it will be just a short-term resolution. once you get, that the market will then snap back, so we're expecting between a 5% and 7% correction within the market until that time comes, but do you want to layer in risk. you want to be buying good quality companies at this point in time as the
unless i'm missing senator reid here. it looks like he might still be in the building at this point. >> the republicans have left the building pretty much. >> reporter: that's right. >> leaving the democrats to talk about this. so it doesn't look that great. stay right there. let's talk about this with some market pros, morgan lander and stephen nicholas is with us, ed moy and rick lake was with us earlier. chad morgan lander, what do you do? investors are watching all of...
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and again, president obama tonight calling harry reid, nancy pelosi to make sure that they both signed off on this deal, which they have. so now we have the vice president who is just arriving at the hill. he is going to sit down with the democratic caucus, sell this deal to the caucus, answer their questions, answer their concerns. but, again, the broad outlines of the deal have been agreed upon by all the major players who are involved in this. of course, vice president biden has been playing a critical role in these negotiations, really the entire time. but especially since saturday when leader mcconnell reached out to him and asked him to get more engaged, which he did. and that is really when we saw this ball move forward. and now it appears inching closer by the hour to the end game. so, again, president obama reaching out to key leaders on the hill, making sure that they agree with this deal. and it appears at this hour that they do. and vice president biden now going to sell to it the caucus. milissa? >> all right, kristen welker, stand by for us, if you please. let's go to nbc
and again, president obama tonight calling harry reid, nancy pelosi to make sure that they both signed off on this deal, which they have. so now we have the vice president who is just arriving at the hill. he is going to sit down with the democratic caucus, sell this deal to the caucus, answer their questions, answer their concerns. but, again, the broad outlines of the deal have been agreed upon by all the major players who are involved in this. of course, vice president biden has been playing...
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president obama, john boehner, nancy pelosi and harry reid, many mitch -- mitch mcconnell all in one room. danielle nottingham tells us it maybe the last chance to get any kind of agreement to avoid that fiscal cliff. >> reporter: president obama is meeting today at the white house with top congressional democrats harry reid and nancy pelosi and leading republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. it's the president's first meeting with congressional leaders since november 16th. the closed door discussions are an attempt to reach a last minute agreement to avoid automatic spending cuts and tax increases due to kick in january 1st. >> probably the worst case scenario will come out of this meeting today and that is we will kick the can down the road. >> reporter: senator bob courter told cbs this morning he predicts the meeting will bring only a temporary solution. >> this afternoon's meeting feels much to me like optics to make it look like we're doing something. let me just say one more time this is a total dereliction of duty at every level. >> reporter: going over the cliff would
president obama, john boehner, nancy pelosi and harry reid, many mitch -- mitch mcconnell all in one room. danielle nottingham tells us it maybe the last chance to get any kind of agreement to avoid that fiscal cliff. >> reporter: president obama is meeting today at the white house with top congressional democrats harry reid and nancy pelosi and leading republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. it's the president's first meeting with congressional leaders since november 16th. the...
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senator harry reid says they are waiting for the coo as well. let's go to nbc's kristen welker at the white house. tell us what you are hearing from your sources there? >> good evening, milissa. according to chuck todd, breaking details from that meeting that vice president biden just had. no one in the meeting said they were planning to vote against this bull once it does move through the senate, it doesn't mean they won't. they didn't voice opposition during that meeting, so that is significant this idea there is some liberal revolve doesn't seem to be coming to the floor, the vice president's agreement received very well. and speculation it could get as many as 80 votes. the vice president putting to caucus members this way. the second part of a three-part process. first was the budget control act. this deals with the issue of taxes, something that president obama has been talking since 2008. campaigned on this issue in 2012, and the third part will be that march trifecta, when you are going to have both the budget to deal with as well as the
senator harry reid says they are waiting for the coo as well. let's go to nbc's kristen welker at the white house. tell us what you are hearing from your sources there? >> good evening, milissa. according to chuck todd, breaking details from that meeting that vice president biden just had. no one in the meeting said they were planning to vote against this bull once it does move through the senate, it doesn't mean they won't. they didn't voice opposition during that meeting, so that is...
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i want the bottom line from both of you even if senators reid and mcconnell come to a deal. you're the top republican vote counter. will it pass and will it fly in the house? will this be done in time? >> if there is enough in the agreement for republicans to be able to support it, and we can get a majority of republicans in the senate and a majority of democrats in the senate, then i think there's a good opportunity for a majority of democrats and republicans in the house to support such a package, and i think a lot of that depends upon whether president obama is willing to compromise this sort of fixation with raising taxes above anybody making more than $200,000 a year. >> reed and mcconnell are both very good leaders and vote counters. if they come to an agreement, they know that they will be able to carry a majority of each of their troops. the real question mark is the house. the house is a bit out of control. they're the reason we've had the problems all along but my guess, if the house and senate agree and leader mcconnell agrees, the house will go along with it too.
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important this was for the american people and the trust that was given to him by the president and leader reid to engage with jord leader mcconnell who had heretofore, if you will, joined with the chorus of naysayers not wanting to do figure. right now we are going over what the proposal is to the american people. let me just say this. i spent a lot of time looking at the basic principles of this propos proposal. we pet last evening with the caucus into the evening on the initial details. we can claim victory that we protected the middle class. we have provided at this point the doctor fix was so very important and making sure that a number of items impact the middle class and did not impact them negatively. >> as you know, speaker boehner is going to have quite a sell job to do. much more difficult one than maybe vice president biden is having in his conversation with democrats. i think we feel good, but the republicans are going to have to ask the question do they represent grover norquist or the tea party or do they represent the american people is this we will have to ask the question whet
important this was for the american people and the trust that was given to him by the president and leader reid to engage with jord leader mcconnell who had heretofore, if you will, joined with the chorus of naysayers not wanting to do figure. right now we are going over what the proposal is to the american people. let me just say this. i spent a lot of time looking at the basic principles of this propos proposal. we pet last evening with the caucus into the evening on the initial details. we...
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you know he sealed this with leader reid and nancy pelosi in the house with phone calls tonight. they have to sell some of the rank and file no.s. part of the pitch is the top rate for people above the threshold of $450,000 will will go back to the rate of 39.6%. there was talk it might be compromised down to 38%. 38.5%. behind the scenes they are trying to assure senators this is going to the full 39.6% to is suggest there is some pain there. the final point i would make is that a senior official here just told me look we are not spiking the ball just yet the because we he got get it past the senators and they got the to be onboard. nobody knows how conservatives, house republicans will be when it makes it to the house. as you know, there might be anger about the fact beyond the small number of cuts to shut off the sequester, no major entitlement reforms or cuts in here and that might be a big bone of contention. >> you mentioned speaker boehner. the house as i mentioned adjourned earlier tonight and they will meet again tomorrow, january 1 at noon, 2013. speaker boehner's spoke
you know he sealed this with leader reid and nancy pelosi in the house with phone calls tonight. they have to sell some of the rank and file no.s. part of the pitch is the top rate for people above the threshold of $450,000 will will go back to the rate of 39.6%. there was talk it might be compromised down to 38%. 38.5%. behind the scenes they are trying to assure senators this is going to the full 39.6% to is suggest there is some pain there. the final point i would make is that a senior...
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. >> we've heard that he reached out to harry reid and nancy pelosi and he spoke with them about everything that was going to take place tonight. what else do we know with how he responded to what's happening? >> well, it's interesting. the president chose today to have one of those campaign-style events with ordinary americans in the white house and an auditorium in the white house compound today. the president sort of came out in a jovial, joking matter. he painted a picture of a deal that was all but done, but he got in a lot of jabs, subtle and otherwise, at republicans and really angered folks. john mccain said he didn't know whether he was sad or angered by what the president had said. cooler heads have obviously prevailed here. and we do know that the president had been on the phone working this, even though joe biden was sort of the front man, flying point, if you will. and negotiations with mitch mcconnell. so, sure, the president has been very involved. he, you know, he has led this campaign style effort to try to force republicans' hand. again, many of those folks are a little bi
. >> we've heard that he reached out to harry reid and nancy pelosi and he spoke with them about everything that was going to take place tonight. what else do we know with how he responded to what's happening? >> well, it's interesting. the president chose today to have one of those campaign-style events with ordinary americans in the white house and an auditorium in the white house compound today. the president sort of came out in a jovial, joking matter. he painted a picture of a...
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nancy pelosi, harry reid, for six years they knew this was coming. last term of president obama, there was no budget passed. nobody is talking, the liberal media is not talking. they are hiding the bills that were passed in the house to be tabled and never brought up and never be accountable for. i hold the republicans accountable, too, because they did not step up to the mike and point the finger towards the blame. i have another question to ask. obama asked for complete congressional powers about being able to pull up and give any amount of money that he wanted, taking those powers away from the house. i think that is completely ludicrous. as far as the last caller asking out the democrats and republicans, that me see, if the democrats put a bill together and the republicans don't vote for it, they are mad at it, but if the republicans put a bill and let's say cave to the democrats, there is no bipartisan. i have never seen the democrats actually cave and take care of the fiscal cliff in the amount of debt that we have is completely crazy to me. >>
nancy pelosi, harry reid, for six years they knew this was coming. last term of president obama, there was no budget passed. nobody is talking, the liberal media is not talking. they are hiding the bills that were passed in the house to be tabled and never brought up and never be accountable for. i hold the republicans accountable, too, because they did not step up to the mike and point the finger towards the blame. i have another question to ask. obama asked for complete congressional powers...
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so harry reid, mitch mcconnell, nancy please elosi on the house to say here are the number of democrats i could get if you offer a compromise package. but this is really a tough situation because there's so little time left and we've already seen the markets impacted by this. so if we do go over the cliff, if you look at the polls, most americans saying republicans will bear the brunt. they will blame republicans, but the bottom line is the president will get a lot of blame as well because this is going to impact a lot of people. >> right. nbc's kristin welker keeping us honest at the white house. we will stand by. thank you. >> reporter: thank you. >>> joining us for analysis are two of my favorite guys, both former chairs of the democratic committee, pk to you both. >> karen. >> thanks, karen. >> governor rendell, i'm going to start with you, what do you make of this meeting? to some degree -- do we really expect we're going to get some substance out of this meeting or is this more for the optics so both sides can say they tried one more time? >> i think it's a little more for the opt
so harry reid, mitch mcconnell, nancy please elosi on the house to say here are the number of democrats i could get if you offer a compromise package. but this is really a tough situation because there's so little time left and we've already seen the markets impacted by this. so if we do go over the cliff, if you look at the polls, most americans saying republicans will bear the brunt. they will blame republicans, but the bottom line is the president will get a lot of blame as well because this...
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but nancy pelosi is on a phone call with president obama and harry reid and she signed off on this, so she has a pretty good sense of where her caucus is, will be getting a lot of democratic support. when you look at how much democratic support this got in the senate, that's an indication it would get a lot in the house. the thing is, speaker boehner gets to determine if this bill -- i think the fact is, if you put this bill on the house floor, it will go through very easily. it's up to him whether he wants to put it on the floor or change it to get more republican support. >> brianna keilar, a big day ahead of us. thank you very much. >> let's go to capitol hill, jonathan allen, a senior correspondent for politico. happy new year. i want to pick up where brianna left off. john boehner has a choice here, to correspon corral support fro republicans or put it to an up-or-down vote. the distance is allowing super groups to put pressure on congressmen to say we don't like this deal. people on the left don't like the deal, say it gives away too much. people on the right don't like it, it ra
but nancy pelosi is on a phone call with president obama and harry reid and she signed off on this, so she has a pretty good sense of where her caucus is, will be getting a lot of democratic support. when you look at how much democratic support this got in the senate, that's an indication it would get a lot in the house. the thing is, speaker boehner gets to determine if this bill -- i think the fact is, if you put this bill on the house floor, it will go through very easily. it's up to him...
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host: harry reid did not have a role in these negotiations. guest: harry reid could not get his caucus to go along with the threshold. reid was not able to bring along a lot of his members to the deal. so biden stepped in. redid on board now. he refused to put social security on the table. the left is pretty pleased with how harry reid dealt with this. host: nancy pelosi supposedly signing off on this agreement. joe biden got most of the rank- and-file to approve this. now action moves to the house. is michael on twitter -- this is michael on twitter. guest: all revenue measures have to originate in the house. they put in the new language and sending it to the house ought to be approved. which is legal and is a funny tricks they have to do. i expect it to come up to a vote early this afternoon. host: here is a posting from red state. guest: if i were a republican, i would tell my fellow republicans they should get behind this deal. you are taking away the white house's leverage on tax rates. then talk about the sequester. you will be able to w
host: harry reid did not have a role in these negotiations. guest: harry reid could not get his caucus to go along with the threshold. reid was not able to bring along a lot of his members to the deal. so biden stepped in. redid on board now. he refused to put social security on the table. the left is pretty pleased with how harry reid dealt with this. host: nancy pelosi supposedly signing off on this agreement. joe biden got most of the rank- and-file to approve this. now action moves to the...
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senator harry reid came out and spoke to reporters on capitol hill telling them that the next 24 hours here are going to be crucial. that would imply to me that there's something in the mix on the senate side on the fiscal cliff negotiations. what that is, we'll have to find out from the president perhaps at 5:45. >> okay, we'll go back to you for that. thanks so much for keeping us updated. the question at this point is, what impact could going over the cliff have on the u.s.'s credit rating. let's bring in sean egan from egan-jones, he's on the phone tonight. if we go over the cliff, i'm assuming the credit rating agencies, other than yours, the others ones, there's a certain amount of time during which they can review the ratings and then decide. it's not an automatic thing. >> that is correct. the first step is to put it under review. then there will be an assessment of how badly we go over the cliff and also whether there will be any reform on titlements. the deficit has been improving. the federal deficit has improved over the last couple quarters. >> so is it the case that perha
senator harry reid came out and spoke to reporters on capitol hill telling them that the next 24 hours here are going to be crucial. that would imply to me that there's something in the mix on the senate side on the fiscal cliff negotiations. what that is, we'll have to find out from the president perhaps at 5:45. >> okay, we'll go back to you for that. thanks so much for keeping us updated. the question at this point is, what impact could going over the cliff have on the u.s.'s credit...
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so if harry reid and mr. mcconnell can't come up with something, then you've got barack obama's proposal and the up or down vote and one way oar the over, he's going to get them on the record. >> joy, even before he gets to the house, there are plenty of republicans in the senate who can mess this up, right? even if they have a deal, there's no guarantee that there isn't a deal, tea-party backed senator. >> are you giving rand paul the side eye here? >> i had him in mind. that's true. >> at the end of the day, mitch mcconnell is a much better leader of his caucus than john boehner is and he's really controlled the levers of the filibuster process. i would find that very surprising if he couldn't win his caucus. the problem is here never have we seen, not in my lifetime, a weaker speaker of the house of representatives than john boehner. john boehner has essentially thrown up his hands and walked away from the congress and the main da mandate and he's essentially said, you guys pass something. it's the house t
so if harry reid and mr. mcconnell can't come up with something, then you've got barack obama's proposal and the up or down vote and one way oar the over, he's going to get them on the record. >> joy, even before he gets to the house, there are plenty of republicans in the senate who can mess this up, right? even if they have a deal, there's no guarantee that there isn't a deal, tea-party backed senator. >> are you giving rand paul the side eye here? >> i had him in mind....
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that was harry reid. you just saw -- what the two of them said was what we had learned from others about the meeting that is in the next 24 hours we may learn if there's going to be a deal and whether this will bleed into 2013. it's up to senator reid and mcconnell say, it's going to be something i can sell to my caucus and it's going to be something that he can sell to his and senator reid said, look, it's not going to be perfect. that much we knew already. 24 hours, those two men trying to come up with something that will not just pass their caucuses but passed by enough in the house to avoid this fiscal cliff. so we will keep you abreast of that again. we'll hear from the president at 5:45 eastern time. that's in about 15 -- 25 minutes. >>> despite what you might think, congress is getting some work done. today senate sent president obama a bill that reauthorizes eavesdropping on communications in search of possible terrorists. in doing so, lawmakers brushed away concerns about violating privacy. >> th
that was harry reid. you just saw -- what the two of them said was what we had learned from others about the meeting that is in the next 24 hours we may learn if there's going to be a deal and whether this will bleed into 2013. it's up to senator reid and mcconnell say, it's going to be something i can sell to my caucus and it's going to be something that he can sell to his and senator reid said, look, it's not going to be perfect. that much we knew already. 24 hours, those two men trying to...
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without adding in to this mix, senator harry reid who is running the senate and have failed to act on anything yet. >> will you support whatever short-term deal the republican leadership supports? >> i don't know what i'm going to support yet until i see it. the previous congressman you had on, raul, interesting enough, his office is right next to mine in longworth. the fact of the matter is we're going to have to find a place to come together. that the president has offered a 7% solution for a 100% problem. i was struck by the fact that not a single democrat supported speaker boehner's plan "b" when that was actually nancy pelosi's solution which was to raise taxes on those earning a million dollars or more. not one democrat agreed to vote for it. >> let's talk about that plan "b." it was not successful. hastert had some unkind words saying i don't want to be critical of john, but you don't ever bring something to the floor if you don't have the votes. so congressman, did the speaker miscalculate and do you think he'll be challenged for the speakership when the new congress convenes?
without adding in to this mix, senator harry reid who is running the senate and have failed to act on anything yet. >> will you support whatever short-term deal the republican leadership supports? >> i don't know what i'm going to support yet until i see it. the previous congressman you had on, raul, interesting enough, his office is right next to mine in longworth. the fact of the matter is we're going to have to find a place to come together. that the president has offered a 7%...
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where we are awaiting boehner, pelosi, reid, mcconnell. all the major players to go into the white house, meet with the president, try to get a fiscal deal done. that meeting, 3:00 p.m. eastern time, in other words, in about eight minutes from now. any headline that comes out of it, you will hear first right here on the worldwide leader in business news. all right. let's forget theory for a moment and find out how the cliff may impact real businesses right here in america, so let's reconvene our "street signs" small business all-star panel. joining us president and owner of maria's italian kitchen and a new face to cnbc, david martin from h.j. martin & son in green bay who i met when i walked into his family store this summer and got a tour of the place. david, thank you very much for joining us. madeline, first, are you worried? are you customers going to stop eating at maria's if we go over the fiscal cliff? >> i don't know, brian. i've got my parachute packed. how about you? >> pasta parachute? that's terrible, sorry. >> full of lots of
where we are awaiting boehner, pelosi, reid, mcconnell. all the major players to go into the white house, meet with the president, try to get a fiscal deal done. that meeting, 3:00 p.m. eastern time, in other words, in about eight minutes from now. any headline that comes out of it, you will hear first right here on the worldwide leader in business news. all right. let's forget theory for a moment and find out how the cliff may impact real businesses right here in america, so let's reconvene...
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if harry reid and mr. mcconnell can't come up with something, then you have barack obama's proposal and he wants that up or down vote, and one way or another, he is going to try to get people on the record. >> and joy, before it gets to the house republicans, there are plenty of republicans in the senate who could mess this up, right? even if mcconnell and reid have a deal, there is not a guarantee that there is not a single tea party-backed senator who would stand in the way and say it won't pass me. >> are you giving rand paul the side eye? >> i had him in mind, true. >> and at the end of the day, mitch mcconnell is a better leader of the caucus than boehner is, and mcconnell has controlled the levers of the filibuster process, and the tact that he is meeting with harry reid means there won't be a filibuster and i would be surprised if he could not whip the congress. we have not seen a weaker speaker of the house than john boehner who has essentially thrown up the hands and walked away from the process a
if harry reid and mr. mcconnell can't come up with something, then you have barack obama's proposal and he wants that up or down vote, and one way or another, he is going to try to get people on the record. >> and joy, before it gets to the house republicans, there are plenty of republicans in the senate who could mess this up, right? even if mcconnell and reid have a deal, there is not a guarantee that there is not a single tea party-backed senator who would stand in the way and say it...
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harry reid says there's not. seems to me more of the same ping-pong we've had over the last few days. >> were no closer to steering away from the cliff. we are much closer to the cliff. the president made a round of calls last night to talk to congressional leaders about the need to get something done. no one has that produced in the form of a bill. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is saying this is the first contact he's had from a democrat since thanksgiving. you need unanimous continue sent for a lot of things to happen. >> and we're now hearing that the white house is denying there's a new plan from the president. so the white house and harry reid are both denying scott brown and gopas about this new physical cliff plan which puts us back to square one. you tackled this issue of john boehner's control over his conference. in a really interesting way. you basically said he's a substitute teacher in the sense that even when he disciplines folks like holtzcamp who were insubordinate and ripped them of comm
harry reid says there's not. seems to me more of the same ping-pong we've had over the last few days. >> were no closer to steering away from the cliff. we are much closer to the cliff. the president made a round of calls last night to talk to congressional leaders about the need to get something done. no one has that produced in the form of a bill. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is saying this is the first contact he's had from a democrat since thanksgiving. you need unanimous...
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it's more than senator harry reid has done on behalf of the senate democrats. the senate democrats haven't proposed a budget. and unless everyone puts a budget on the table there can't be a discussion. senator harry reid has a pocket veto on the budget. >> and that's not within the law. the law says the congress has to pass a budget every year, the senate has to pass a budget but harry reid has chosen not to bring a budget year after year after year. he's not committed to dealing with the major problem of the country, the spending. >> and it's sort of interesting. nevada re-election him, that's their choice but the rest of the country is held hostage. people in my home state of wisconsin, if they don't like harry reid has majority leader there's nothing they can do. they can put pressure on their senators, but for the most part senator harry reid is in a very powerful position. >> i think he's taking orders from president obama. this is time for the president of the united states to lead. there's only one person who has the pen who can sign into law the law pre
it's more than senator harry reid has done on behalf of the senate democrats. the senate democrats haven't proposed a budget. and unless everyone puts a budget on the table there can't be a discussion. senator harry reid has a pocket veto on the budget. >> and that's not within the law. the law says the congress has to pass a budget every year, the senate has to pass a budget but harry reid has chosen not to bring a budget year after year after year. he's not committed to dealing with the...
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senators reid and mcconnell will try to come to a deal. if they fail, the white house and harry reid are going to try to jam through a bill that increases taxes on rich people and extends unemployment insurance, which are the two key democratic priorities. they'll pretty much dare republicans to block it. and republicans probably won't be able to, at least not for long. here's johnny isaacson, a republican senator from georgia, over the weekend. >> if we get down to the end of this year, and the only choice we have is to save taxes going up on the middle class, then i would support that. >> last weekend, "the wall street journal" had a great piece going behind the scenes on the fiscal cliff negotiations. and in it, they quoted this exchange between speaker boehner and president obama. mr. boehner said he wanted to deal along the lines what the two men had negotiated, summer of 2011, in the fight over raising the debt ceiling. "you missed your opportunity on that," the president told him. cold. but what we know right now, what we know from
senators reid and mcconnell will try to come to a deal. if they fail, the white house and harry reid are going to try to jam through a bill that increases taxes on rich people and extends unemployment insurance, which are the two key democratic priorities. they'll pretty much dare republicans to block it. and republicans probably won't be able to, at least not for long. here's johnny isaacson, a republican senator from georgia, over the weekend. >> if we get down to the end of this year,...
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>> well, i wasn't able to hear what harry reid just said because we were on the air. and i had the piece in my ear. so i don't know exactly any other time table he gave. but what i mentioned as you and i talked a few minutes ago was the republican source was telling me expect the negotiations to keep going, that we weren't going to get a deal immediately, that things have to be scored and prepared and then members have to get briefed. so we'll go deeper in to the day in terms of this process and when any potential votes might happen, but i would expect that if biden and mcconnell spoke at 6:30 this morning, their staffs are probably buttoning up the results of that phone call. there may be more phone calls. and then when they have got a deal, when they have it scored and agreed upon, they will come out and we'll all know it pretty quickly. but not just yet. >> reid says fiscal cliff negotiations continue. differences remain. mcconnell is not on the floor. good sign? too busy working things out in the back room somewhere? >> i would think that's a good sign. if you're
>> well, i wasn't able to hear what harry reid just said because we were on the air. and i had the piece in my ear. so i don't know exactly any other time table he gave. but what i mentioned as you and i talked a few minutes ago was the republican source was telling me expect the negotiations to keep going, that we weren't going to get a deal immediately, that things have to be scored and prepared and then members have to get briefed. so we'll go deeper in to the day in terms of this...